10-30-2020, 07:24 PM
Still not sure how Giannis would fit in the lineup. Unless he takes on a complementary role (which is not happening), then I could see it working out.
(10-30-2020, 07:24 PM)donzingis38 Wrote: Still not sure how Giannis would fit in the lineup. Unless he takes on a complementary role (which is not happening), then I could see it working out.
(10-30-2020, 12:52 PM)omahen Wrote: Totally agree, that is a big question. From his perspective it has to come to from - "put better players around ME" to "I am not good enough to win (it all) on my own." That is huge for two time MVP.
(10-30-2020, 05:23 PM)KillerLeft Wrote:(10-30-2020, 05:18 PM)khaled1987 Wrote: Since you are a Mavs fan, you prove my point
I doubt Giannis is sitting right there thinking Luka is the better player and asit stands right now I think Giannis is overwhelmingly considered the better player of the two.
As fans of Luka we have the right to think otherwise ,nothing wrong in that. But it isn't the public opinion and I doubt it will be what Giannis is thinking
Yes, yes. I understand, trust me.
What you're saying above is kind of MY point about what I got from your earlier post. I agree that the national perception of Giannis is that he's the better player NOW, reading through this conversation has led me to a conclusion (similar to you, I think) that it's probably really difficult for Giannis to make the decision to join someone like Luka.
But I don't think he'll be considered the better player for much longer, either way. I watched a TON of Milwaukee this year, especially in the playoffs, and I can promise you that featuring him as a ball-handler offensively in the half court is a DEAD END. He's one year away from suffering the national perception of "Giannis can't get it done in the playoffs." As Dirk fans, we are familiar with that nonsense.
(10-30-2020, 10:29 PM)SleepingHero Wrote:(10-30-2020, 12:52 PM)omahen Wrote: Totally agree, that is a big question. From his perspective it has to come to from - "put better players around ME" to "I am not good enough to win (it all) on my own." That is huge for two time MVP.
The thing is, if Giannis decides to meet with the Mavs, my pitch to him would be
"Listen Giannis. You are a monster. You are good enough to get to the finals on your own if your team actually decides to spend money on a winner. You are this generations Shaq. But even Shaq needed his Kobe. We have our Kobe. And on top of having your Kobe as a sidekick, we can give you a unicorn with Dirk-lite shooting and all NBA defense. Also did I mention Luka is only 21 and KP is 26? We could keep them around you for the next 8 years. We also have an owner that will spend any amount necessary to win rings and is entrenched with basketball. We want to win at least 3 in a row. Only Russell, Jordan, and the Kobe/Shaq Lakers ever did it. With you, Luka, and KP, we think we can. "
I think playing to Giannis being Shaq and showing him that it's okay to have a duo to win will let him get past the mindset that him as an individual can't win. Luka/KP/Giannis has the potential to be an historic trio and that is what will be etched in NBA history.
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